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  • Hi there
     
    I have a question about L2 ESOL US 3477 (Write recounts on familiar topics). Under Definitions in Special Notes it says 'Recounts in the context of this US refer to the retelling of past events, such as personal experiences, a class event, or account of an accident.'  Does this mean that these are the only options we have for topics or does 'such as' imply that there is more choice?  One of my students has written a biographical recount (not autobiographical) and apart from the topic it would meet the standard for L2. 
     
    Regards
     
    Ulrika Bonning
  • Jenni Bedford
    Jenni Bedford (View all users posts) 02 Apr 2012 11:17am (668 days ago)

    Hi Ulrika
    The focus for write recounts at level 2 is familiar topics of past events from a personal perspective. The step up to level 3 is to include historical and biographical recounts.
    So for level 2 the suggestions in the special note are not the only options as long as you ensure it's a personal retelling of past events.
    It is possible that the biographical recount the student has done could be adapted quite easily – focusing on part of his/her life.

    Why don't you scan it in so that we can comment more specifically?

    Regards

    Jenni

  • Lorna Biddington
    Lorna Biddington (View all users posts) 03 Apr 2012 5:19pm (667 days ago)

    Hi Jenny,  I also have a question regarding 3477.  I have a big class which I am doing a holiday unit and a special achievement unit with. There is a variety of levels in the class and so in the first assessment some students wrote well over 125-150 words. The had very few errors but the complexity of the sentences wasn't quite up to level 3. They are probably just below level 3. However, to assess them at level 3 I would have to add another unit to inlcude a historical or biographical recount  which I don't particulary want to do. How lenient can I a be with the word count in this situation?

  • Jenni Bedford
    Jenni Bedford (View all users posts) 04 Apr 2012 12:37pm (666 days ago)

    Hi Lorna - Most students disadvantage themselves by going over the word count as they make more errors, but it sounds as though your students haven't. In moderation you would not be pinged for this - just a suggestion to ensure students keep within the word count in future.

    Another time I would encourage your students to structure their writing so that they do keep to the word count as that is a skill they need to learn - especially in tertiary study.

  • Lorna Biddington
    Lorna Biddington (View all users posts) 25 May 2012 12:45pm (615 days ago)

    Hi Jenny,

    I have just tried out the new belonging formative and summative for US2969. It has been great, but thinkgI have found some errors. Is this the best place to bring them up or would you prefer I email through my concerns?

  • Nicki Ridden
    Nicki Ridden (View all users posts) 28 May 2012 11:21am (612 days ago)

    Hi Lorna, 

    What were the errors? I am about to get that unit prepared for my T3 classes, so would appreciate this post being a public conversation if possible!

    Cheers,

    Nicki

  • Breda Matthews
    Breda Matthews (View all users posts) 28 May 2012 2:19pm (612 days ago)

    Hi Lorna,

         Jenni is away but post here or email me if you like bredamatthews@gmail.com and I will answer.

     

    Kind regards

    Breda

  • Lorna Biddington
    Lorna Biddington (View all users posts) 28 May 2012 9:17pm (612 days ago)

    While going through the unit I found the following:

    1) In the predicting word meanings exercise (TL5) fortunate is missing from the graph.

    2)In the formative reading the answers for b)understanding events are wrong or certainly confusing. For one there are only 4 answers, yet on the marking schedule there are 5.

    These are no big deal and easily fixed; however, I also had some concerns about the summative assessment.

    3) In the summative assessment for 1.3 The connections between key events are identified, the student is asked to comment on Languages spoken at home when the home character was in Taiwan and in New Zealand. I thought this was a bit tough for this level considering there is no mention of what languages were spoken in the reading. The answer given was Mandarin and Taiwanese for both answers. Since it was not stated in the text many of my students presumed that the main character spoke Taiwanese in Taiwan and English in New Zealand.

    In 2c Setting, the students were asked to describe the kind of home life the family have in New Zealand. The answer given was traditional (meals)/keep cultural traditions. Once again where was this indicated in the text ?

    I felt that these two questions were particulary difficult and unfair. The answers may have been in the original reading, but were not in the text the students were given.

    I really appreciate having this resource, and as I said I  enjoyed the unit, so I don't want to sound ungrateful. However, my students struggled with these two questions, and I can see why. I have to say I should have read it thoroughly first myself before I gave it to them! :)

    Thank you

    Lorna

  • Jenni Bedford
    Jenni Bedford (View all users posts) 22 Jun 2012 9:49pm (587 days ago)

    Hi Lorna - Sorry for the delay in answering. I've been overseas for a month.

    Thanks so much for your feedback and you are right, those questions should be removed. I think I was working from the original story and then later had to reduce it to keep it within the word count. We are always grateful for feedback that makes these assessments better.

    In the meantime my advice would be to remove these 2 questions completely. I will try and get the assessment changed online but that may take a while. I'll also change those formative ones as well.

     

    Regards

    Jenni

  • Jenni Bedford
    Jenni Bedford (View all users posts) 22 Jun 2012 10:01pm (587 days ago)

    Hi there - Just an update on the use of ESOL unit standards for UE in 2014. ESOL unit standards are not in the approved UE list. As well as the 14x3 credits from that approved list of subjects, there are 18 credits at level 3+, 10 numeracy (level 1) and 10 literacy (level 2 +)

    The good news is that ESOL level 3 & 4 standards can be used in the 18 credits needed at level 3+.

    Jenni