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Started by Hamish McLean 26 Aug 2014 7:23pm () Replies (18)

In the "Digital Literacy Progressions" thread we got off topic, but had some good discussions.  So created this topic to let us discuss how to enable eLearning pedagogy in schools to, how to move forward dropping off irrelevant education content....  Digital Educational Philosophy...


  • Maria Persson (View all users posts) 01 Sep 2014 3:15pm ()

    Awesome stuff! 

    I would so love to work with your team! Have dreamt of a school like this in NZ.  I know there are one or two..I modelled my primary classrooms based on the principles of this model!

    Here is the High School I graduated from and you'll understand why I appreciate the very worthwhile direction you are going:

    Bishop Carroll HighSchool - Calgary, Alberta, Canada 

  • Hamish McLean (View all users posts) 01 Sep 2014 1:28pm ()

    Yeah... the more you get to know me, the more you'll come to expect sturring!  : )

    We started our student week of 'no formaised lessons' but the students and teachers are offering workshops in areas that students have requested.  i.e. groups identified the following areas they want support with:

    Made award videos, speeches, communication, coding, milestones (student focused areas).  Here is a snip from the timetable

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  • Maria Persson (View all users posts) 29 Aug 2014 3:27pm ()

    So Hamish you are stirring I see!

    I don't believe in a one size fits all curriculum!  I best be careful now because I may never be employable again but it's true - I've been listenting to Sugata Mitra and the work he did with children in India (see link below) and there was no curriculum - just a desire, hunger to learn. He points out quite nicely that the future of learning may not be in the gaining of knowledge - it may even be obsolete?

    View this at 16.23

    "I think what we need to look at is we need to look at learning as the product of educational self-organization. If you allow the educational process to self-organize, then learning emerges. It's not about making learning happen. It's about letting it happen. The teacher sets the process in motion and then she stands back in awe and watches as learning happens. I think that's what all this is pointing at."

    I think that this is not curriculum as we know it today? Where is the awe, excitement and curiosity for/of learning? That's the curriculum I believe in!

    Check out the concept of SOLE : http://solemodel.wordpress.com/



  • Hamish McLean (View all users posts) 28 Aug 2014 7:41pm ()

    Ok.... Question 2:

    What kind of curriculum is going to be best suited to developing the minds and identities of our young people, so that they will be able to prosper in the 'real' world?  (Got the idea off Guy Claxton)

  • Hamish McLean (View all users posts) 28 Aug 2014 7:36pm ()

    Thanks Chris.  

    I read those articles, and perhaps my perspective is too rose coloured?  

    The articles use works like 'studies show' and now 'studies prove'  which doesnt really mean a lot.  Also I saw an arguement for using pen and paper to 'write down physical goals' is 33% more effecitve to achieve those goals.  Because printing out the goal is still having a 'physical goal' so is the same thing.  

    Also of note is using a pen to form letters, adds greater connections for letter and word formation over typing.  But it doesnt discuss using a digital device to form a letter or words with your finger as many junior apps do.

    I'm not trying to pick the studies apart... perhaps I am?  haha...   

    I do agree that mistakes will be made, and thats just a fantastic part of the learning process   Sealed

  • Maria Persson (View all users posts) 28 Aug 2014 11:44am ()

    Awesome links Chris! Thanks for sharing.

    I think I understand where my daughter is coming from and in fact being no technophobe myself I do wonder what some of us might do if there was a mass power outage!

    Funny to think about but I'd still have a 'self directed' learner environment, real books, pens and other resources to ensure my students could still tap into their creative, imaginative, collaborative and communicative selves!

    I also watched another doco that invesigated similar outcomes on tech on young brains.  This is also a good read:


    Especially like that the point of view it comes from is that of parents!

    Cheers all. Must work now!

    Couple of other links some might like to have a look at:



  • Janet McCarroll (View all users posts) 27 Aug 2014 8:40pm ()

    Wow Hamish,

    I love the idea that you undertake your PLD during school hours, visible to the students, who then witness their teachers as co learners. I love it!  

    Ive always wanted to invite our parents to our 'Horizon hours' or whole staff PLD. 

    If we educate our parents to levels of understanding, that we know they can be true partners in the learning process, or equal stakeholders, there must be merit in this idea? I understand that inviting parents to all PLD sessions would not always be appropriarte, however, some generic PLD sessions, where we are looking to advance student learning outcomes through conceptual shift, e.g. examining a 'growth mind set as compared to a 'fixed mindset', must be advantageous to both parents and teachers in improving student learning.




  • Maria Persson (View all users posts) 27 Aug 2014 5:15pm ()

    I'm in the tertiary sector working with students from all faculties trying to come to grips with their tertiary studies. I mainly work with pre-service teachers actually.

    More and more are coming with 'odd' tech incorporated into their assessment tasks and I'd hate to say this out loud but they resemble the 'S' from the SMAR model unfortunately!  The tech becomes so overwhelming that students are forgetting to get across their thinking and the learning takes second place.

    I'm primary trained (still registered) with a couple of other quals but lately I've been itching to get back into a classroom but jobs are difficult to come by where the attitude is like you describe at your school Hamish!  

    I have a couple of resources here - not sure if they are of any value to anyone but I like reading and trying to gather resources to help get a better picture of potential changes I could make - if I ever get back...

    This doc is a great rubric (with the folder that contains posters that work alongside) that helps to point out areas/tasks that teachers and students could be responsible for in their learning/teaching and gives 'levels' to aim for.  It has a SMAR feel to it, developed with CORE in mind (American curriculum) but still useful.  I have included the links from the blog that this all comes from - no copyright issues here - stick to the rules of.



    This article (very excellent well researched read - Niemi et al., 2014) touches on some of the very ideas we have chatted about so far; developing ways of thinking and moving forward in terms of developing skill areas for future work environments (don't like using the word 'jobs') and exploring 'digital storytelling as a vehicle for learning:

    • creatively
    • critically
    • problem solving
    • decision making
    • collaborating (globally)
    • communicating (globally)


    Thanks for being here!


  • Hamish McLean (View all users posts) 27 Aug 2014 4:42pm ()

    Hi Nathaniel, Maria, and welcome Chris.  Good to see you here.  I'm hoping this is a thread where we can post any questions or comments we have about eLearning pedagogy.  

    I'm lucky to be part of a school that 'actions' new initiatives, and trys new ideas regularly.  Our view that we want students to make mistakes in order to learn about themselves, so we should do the same.  If it doesnt work, then hey... we tried... lets try something else now.   We also have our PDL sessions in a classroom during school time so students can see it happening.  So they know we are learners too.  

    What things are you doing?  Thanks.

  • Chris Dillon (View all users posts) 27 Aug 2014 2:36pm ()

    Then again as Google suggests Knowledge is pashttp://www.eweek.com/database/transactive-memory-applies-technology-to-free-up-your-mind.html

    a taste of the article from end of p2 "...we can spend our educations on learning how to think and build things as well as understand concepts without spending all our time memorizing formulas, dates, names or facts of all kinds. Because those will always be right there with us at all times, available for instant recall. In some ways, this transformation of how the human mind works through the outsourcing and collectivization of human memory is probably the most profound change technology will bring to our species in our lifetimes."

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