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  • Carol Kendall 01 Apr 2014 1:58pm () in Does your school have a 'Thought' Curriculum?

    This article really got me thinking: Are you teaching content, or teaching thought?

    • How do we make sure our students are getting the skills and understandings required to organise and deepen their own thinking as critical and creative thinkers?
    • What tools can be used to support them in becoming independent thinkers?
    • Are schools using a programme for this, and what tools do they choose to focus on - there are so many out there?
    • How do you make sure these skills and tools are used in an authentic, meaningful way, so that students do actually develop a toolkit that they can turn to naturally in the future?

    I'm looking forward to sharing in the discussion about this complex and exciting aspect of learning.

  • Carol Kendall 24 Mar 2014 9:54pm () in Students unable to share to large screens from BYOD devices - isolating network settings inhibiting this

    That's a handy idea, thanks Allanah - I hadn't heard of that tool. The classes all have a Dropbox account, so I was thinking we will have to get on with using these - causes more wifi and internet traffic, and time though.... nothing like being able to share instantly. But I think your idea would also be useful if we needed to get some things to a teacher for posting on the blog or YouTube. Would be better than emailing for videos. We have used the Photo Transfer app very successfully, but it's not a free app, and of course devices need to be on the same network....

  • Carol Kendall 24 Mar 2014 9:24pm () in Students unable to share to large screens from BYOD devices - isolating network settings inhibiting this

    I'd like to thank you all for your detailed responses to this problem. I am really grateful! It certainly seems easier for those of you who are all Apple schools, as we are. However, for the BYOD trial with Years 7-8 we are allowing students to bring whatever they have. We are reluctant to specify platform although we certainly have our preferred option.

    It seems that some of you (like us) add MAC addresses to enable access, and others use passwords, or a combination. We have BYOD wifi access only between 8:30 am and 3:30 pm. Does this sort of thing work well for you?

    We were strongly discouraged by the techs from allowing teachers' personal devices to access the school network - they had to be on BYOD. But I got brassed off with that because teachers were using their personal iPads and iPhones to take photos and support the students' work, but having times limited and no access to the large screens - it was hugely limiting for them - so, I'd already put the MAC addresses of these devices on both networks.....

    I've never heard of the Chrome Cast devices - I'll have to Google them - they are a replacement for Apple TV?

    Being a Mac school, can anyone tell me how to project to a screen wirelessly with (say) an HP Windows laptop (as some students have these). Or do they only work with a dongle? I'm thinking that we may be able to have the few Windows devices on the BYOD, but the other iOS BYOD devices actually on the school wifi.

    Anyway, I'll offer your ideas to our tech and Principal, and we have some very helpful ideas we can think about.

    Thanks so much!


  • Carol Kendall 23 Mar 2014 9:18pm () in Students unable to share to large screens from BYOD devices - isolating network settings inhibiting this

    I am wondering how other schools (particularly primary schools) have set up their wifi networks to enable wireless sharing from BYOD devices to the likes of an Apple TV and large screen, or through software such as the Reflector app on a teachers's laptop. I know that the sharing has to be via the same wifi network.

    It is important to us to be able to have students share their learning onto a big screen, from anywhere in the room, through one of these methods, and not depending on a dongle that anchors the user to the front of the room, gets loose and needs updating for new connection types.

    We are new to BYOD this year and are trialling it this term with your Year 7-8s. All devices (school-owned AND BYOD) have their MAC address registered into our Ruckus wifi network - no password is required. Our school-owned and teacher TELA devices (Macbooks, iPads) have been set up onto a school wifi network and are able to share via wifi onto a large screen, and share files between each other, and also access files on the server. So far, so good...

    But......The BYOD devices (mostly iOS, but some Windows) are set up on a separate BYOD wifi network where (I have just discovered) devices are also 'isolated' and unable to share with each other via wifi. No wonder I couldn't get students to share from their iOS screens, either to an Apple TV or Reflector - this is VERY frustrating.

    As I discovered, enabling teacher laptops to also be able to connect to the BYOD wifi, so sharing could occur on large screens, didn't solve the problem because of the isolation setting used in Ruckus by our techs. So, we had students keen to share their movies and other learning from their iOS devices, but they couldn't without taking a very round-about route via the likes of Dropbox. Airdrop wasn't an option....

    The tech response to this difficulty is that BYOD devices can only access the Internet. This is to prevent the spread of viruses. If we disable isolation, and an infected BYOD device installs a virus on the other BYOD devices, who would be responsible for fixing all those devices?

    They also say that, to securely allow a device on the BYOD network access to an AppleTV on the school's main wifi network would involve reconfiguring every switch on the school network and the Ruckus system. This would cost a few thousand dollars....

    We had realised BYOD devices wouldn't be able to access the server, but hadn't known about the isolation factor and its implications.

    So, what is the situation in your school? Is there an easy, cheap, and effective solution? Obviously, we appreciate the need for security, but this is taking precedent over our learning values. Your ideas would be appreciated!

  • Carol Kendall 02 Mar 2014 7:09pm () in Minecraft Edu costs

    My apologies for the delay in replying to Craig's original questions. Around this time last year, I purchased MinecraftEDU for 15 users at school. It is installed on 14 of the Macbook Pros in our laptop pod, and the Server is on an iMac in our teacher workroom. I have 'hidden' the Minecraft on the Macbooks, just so it's not right in students' faces, but they can find it if they have a mind to. And the group of 12 students I worked with last year do know how to find it. If I Quit out of Minecraft on the Server, they cannot play MinecraftEDU. So, it only ran for a couple of hours each week during our session.

    I found EDU a great version to use for beginners (ie ME), and there is a lot you can lock down. But you can't really stop 'griefing'. Students want all the features that they have available when they play at home, but you can limit a number of things. It's great to be able to freeze all players!

    We did find the software a bit buggy at times, students timing out and having to re-enter the game. We have a RUCKUS network and ultrafast broadband, but I don't want the children playing online from the school. My MInecraftEDU server would not be available anyway. I did consider looking at externally hosted MinecraftEDU servers, but didn't want that network traffic and other issues. But there are some advantages of external hosting and a number are setting up. I do remember there being a server of some sort that I could have joined, with others in NZ (but am clueless now as to what that was, and I think it MAY have been an EDU server). I didn't want the additional fees of joining an external server.

    I think if you're getting started, you'd be wise to host your own Server within the school. As you will read in my Springston Minecrafters Blog, the students developed their own Charter for playing, and I only had 12 students to work with - they had to do an application. On one occasion a student was caught out once too often by his peers, and was forced to withdraw for the agreed number of sessions. It had a dramatic affect.

    I think EDU is a great piece of software for schools, and is much cheaper than buying the game directly. I can't remember all the details now, it's too long ago, and I haven't played for two terms (being away overseas for a fair period of time, and then we were into Term 4 and too busy with other things). I haven't started yet this year, wanting students to settle into classes (I'm not in my own classroom). I'm having students coming up to me every day I'm at school, asking when I'm going to start Minecraft again. But this time I want to 'borrow' a class and work with students that way - probably with a focus on Maths. I do have one teacher interested. And I'm running a session after school this Wednesday, for teachers who want to have a play and see what the fuss is all about.

    I had intended to play Minecraft over the holidays, but never managed it - too much else going on. So, I haven't made any progress in my own understanding, and have forgotten a lot since the end of Term 3 last eyar. Nevertheless, I am hooked on this way of teaching and want to find out more. I've joined a Coursera MOOC course on Gamification, and although I'm not doing the essays, I am loving the lectures and the understanding I'm gaining about this potentially powerful way of learning.

  • Carol Kendall 27 Feb 2014 11:14am () in Minecraft Edu costs

    I am using Minecraft EDU at our primary school, and think it's great. Right now I don't have time to respond more fully, but will do so tonight or tomorrow.

  • Carol Kendall 19 Feb 2014 8:51pm () in A simple practicality - locking devices away during breaks?

    A lot of schools indicate that BYOD devices are locked away in cupboards during breaks etc. How many of you are doing this? How practical is it to manage a system like this? Does the teacher do it, or students themselves, or...? What if the teacher is away and there is a reliever? Keys get mislaid.... Just wondering how you're find this working in reality, in a busy classroom. I'm thinking about this for primary school students, and I'm keen for your thoughts.

  • Carol Kendall 07 Feb 2014 10:12pm () in Changing from Data Projectors to TVs

    Just looking at all of this myself! I'd be interested to know what your special trolley is and how bulky it is. Also, how low can the TV go and can an Apple TV sit on a shelf with it. Is it one of the Sitech ones?

    Our junior teachers seem to want a particular Sitech teaching station (similar to this but with a 42" TV and the plastic drawers/shelving). I'm not convinced about the TV size, and think that senior classes at least would need a 50" screen. Nevertheless, we've got to think about whether this becomes something that directs all eyes to the front of the class, more traditional type of teaching situation. But I really do want something that students can share their work on and everyone can see, or use as a clear communicating tool with Skype, Facetime etc.

  • Carol Kendall 02 Feb 2014 9:32pm () in How to use Profile Manager

    You could try, and it's a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't think I'd be wanting to pay for such a course - or it would have to be very cheap for schools. I think Apple owes us big time to help sort this out. They should be more available for everyone (feeling grumpy).

  • Carol Kendall 31 Jan 2014 5:53pm () in How to use Profile Manager

    I'd be interested in this information too. Are you running your Mac Mini just for this purpose, or is it also used as a server for other purposes as well? What is the cost of Profile Manager? It seems that Apple Configurator and iOS7 might not quite do what is needed.

Carol Kendall

Part time teacher working with teachers and students to use ICT creatively and effectively. Also passionate about inquiry learning. An Apple fan!